WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY?
WE, THE SUPPORTERS OF NAOMI ISAACSON, ARE DEMANDING A SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE INVESTIGATION OF NANCY DREHER (JUDGE), DENNIS O’BRIEN (JUDGE), NAUNI MANTY (CH. 7 TRUSTEE) AND COLIN KREUZIGER (US TRUSTEE).
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WE DEMAND THAT NANCY DREHER, THE BANKRUPCTY COURT JUDGE, VACATE HER ILLEGAL, UNETHICAL, MALICIOUS, CONSPIRATORIAL ORDER AND QUASH THE WARRANT FOR NAOMI ISAACSON’S ARREST AND DETENTION
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FOUR NOTORIOUS CATHOLICS, JUDGE DENNIS O’BRIEN, JUDGE NANCY DREHER, U.S. TRUSTEE COLIN KREUZIGER AND CHAPTER 7 TRUSTEE NAUNI MANTY HOLD SECRET MEETINGS TO PLAN OUT HOW TO PUNISH NAOMI ISAACSON FOR EXPOSING THEIR ILLEGAL, RACIST ACTIVITIES
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THE FOUR CATHOLICS DECIDE THAT CHAPTER 7 TRUSTEE NAUNI MANTY SHOULD FILE BASELESS MOTION FOR CONTEMPT
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CHAPTER 7 TRUSTEE SCHEDULES A HEARING FOR 1:30 P.M. BUT SECRETLY THE JUDGE DREHER, U.S. TRUSTEE COLIN KREUZIGER AND CHAPTER 7 TRUSTEE NAUNI MANTY AGREE TO HOLD HEARING TO FIND NAOMI ISAACSON IN CONTEMPT AT 1:00 P.M. BEFORE DEBTOR OR ITS ATTORNEY APPEAR SO THE MATTER CAN GO BY DEFAULT
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FOLLOWING THE SECRET ILLEGAL HEARING, DREHER ISSUES HER DEFAULT ORDER MANDATING NAOMI ISAACSON’S APPEARANCE ON DECEMBER 6, 2011. UPON DEBTOR’S REQUEST, DREHER REFUSES TO VACATE HER ILLEGAL ORDER
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BASED UPON DREHER’S ILLEGAL ORDER, A HEARING OCCURRED ON DECEMBER 6, 2011 AND DREHER ISSUES A WARRANT FOR NAOMI ISAACSON’S ARREST
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WE REQUEST THAT STATE, FEDERAL, INTERNATIONAL, UNITED NATIONS, AND FOREIGN GOVERMENTS IMMEDIATELY INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER TO PROTECT NAOMI ISAACSON FROM THE DANGER AND EVIL INTENDED BY NANCY DREHER
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WE BELIEVE THAT IF NAOMI ISAACSON IS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY NANCY DREHER WILL HAVE HER KILLED
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WE DEMAND AN END TO RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IN MINNESOTA BANKRUPTCY COURT
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WE URGE THE PUBLIC TO INVESTIGATE ABOUT NANCY DREHER AND THE MINNESOTA BANKRUPTCY COURT
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READ THE HISTORY FOR YOURSELF!
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Watch the video of the United Against Oppression protesters that showed up in front of the Minneapolis Federal Courthouse to support Naomi Isaacson.
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You guys are all a bunch of fucking idiots controlled by a fucking idiots trying to scam people into believe how fucking smart you are…..turn over the documents requested, play the fucking game. If not suffer at the hands of everyone else who is playing the game and doesn’t like fucking assholes with their own set of propoganda and bullshit….
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My, my… what an intelligent comment. I’m impressed that you have such a witty way with words.
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I have been at sist gas stations many times and they are some of the kindest people i have ever meet.everyone has the right to believe in the religion of their choose.this so called cult has only helped shawano.i have many freinds that go to there stations its so sad that all those big oil corperations and are goverment are making all that money on oil while a small little town is trying to help us. you dont see them helping people with schooling! as for them being secretive you wouldnt talk to much either if every one was saying you are a cult member for being your religion. Remember do on to others as you would like the to do to you. and yes i seen with my own eyes what they did to that ponderosa if that had been my property i would of sued the day lites out of shawano county they have a proven track record the novicite the posse commititus ask the indians their how bad the police treated them for over 100 years. as for the race track they wanted it out so it didnt interfer with the shawano county race track in shawano great thinking lorna force it to shut down then a few years later you can buy it for pennies for taxes.i beleive that move was conflict of interest in my book
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Hey Steve, you adulterous man… How is your adulterous girlfriend doing?
Right in your bible your relationship is condemned as adulterous.
So, do you follow the spiritual aspect of it or just whatever part is convenient? There can be no old or new, is your god old or new? He must be old since he is thousands of years dead by your standards, therefore we can scrap him and his gospel since it can’t possibly be convenient enough in this day and age.
And since you appear to be so good at throwing bible verses at everyone here is one for you to remember:
“But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.” These words are too plain to he misunderstood. According to this law, adultery is the only sufficient reason of divorce. No matter how unscriptural the laws of the land in which we live, or lax the sentiments and practices of the public today, nothing can possibly excuse anyone flying in the face of this express declaration by who you call god in Matthew 19:9.
oh and don’t forget ….
“…but those who were so dastardly as not to dare to take up the cross of Christ, and discharge their duty to him, were yet so desperate as to run into all manner of abominable wickedness-murder, **adultery, sorcery, idolatry, and lying. (2.) Their punishment: They have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. [1.] They could not burn at a stake for Christ, but they must burn in hell for sin.”
**Apparently Steve we all get to go to hell together… You for adultery and myself for what? believing in Gd and that Christianity is a fabricated story?
You live in the Gregorian age, an age defined by the POPE!! So what religion is that? Catholism!! Pope Gregory determined when the zero calendar year was. The person you call god did not exist then! He was already here 165 years prior to that! What deception your religion has…
If that isn’t enough then when Martin Luther your ancestral father, left his Catholic Church he brought their bible with him, modified it to his benefit and started a ‘new religion’. This book you call the holy bible is a fabricated and false book, in fact it is the Roman bible.
Back in the day convents were called ‘breeding houses’ or what may be more commonly known as ‘whore houses’.
Startled? Why should you be. After all they needed someone to provide good Catholic bred children to the childless Catholic families. Who better than the priests and nuns themselves?! They also enjoyed having such a free lifestyle, whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted it. Too bad they enjoy children too.
And don’t tell me that isn’t in history. Your Christian ancestors are Romans, Christianity was developed by Romans, Romans enjoyed and still do enjoy homosexuality and pedophilia.. that was their speciality. What a dirty religion. That isn’t what you profess your god to be about is it? He condemned and destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of the evils of the people there and that included homosexual acts! Remember the men at Lots’ door? How do you justify or change that translation? Is it in YOUR bible or not?!
So again, adulterous Steve, do you follow a religion of convenience or do you uphold the truth?
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Once again just to remind people why we are really here….
Why did they illegally convert the Chapter 11 bankruptcy to a Chapter 7?
What documents does the Trustee Manty say are really missing?
Is Nancy Dreher related to the Shawano area in any way?
Is O’Brien related to Manty in any way, business or personal?
Since their (Naomi and Rebekah) religious background means something in this case, what is the religious and educational background of all of the parties posing as Judges and Trustees?
What is the religious/educational background of the people who purchased the properties for pennies on the dollar from the trustee when these properties were illegally liquidated?
Why did they have a secret hearing?
What prompted them to take such illegal and unethical steps?
Whose idea was it for them to have the secret hearing?
When did they meet together to plan it?
Was the planning done in-person or by phone?
Did Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty send the notice setting the hearing for 1:30 p.m.? (If she says no, that contradicts the record which shows it was set for 1:30 p.m.)
Why did Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty and Colin Kreuziger of the United States Trustee’s Office meet with Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy Dreher at 1:00 p.m.?
How come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy did not question where the Debtor was?
Why didn’t Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty tell Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy Dreher that she had sent the notice telling Debtor the hearing was set for 1:30 p.m.?
Knowing it was set for 1:30 p.m., how come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy went ahead to hold the hearing at 1:00 p.m.?
What was their discussion about the Debtor?
Did Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy not think what she was doing was illegal?
How come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy’s clerk just termed it “confusion”?
Since Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy knew there was some “confusion” then why did she go ahead and issue a default order?
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Here is some FOOD FOR THOUGHT…have you seen Avraham’s beautiful home in Baltimore? Why can’t you live in a house like that?
“Avraham” is busy (I REMEMBER THAT FROM WHENEVER I TRIED TO CALL HIM AND HE IS ALWAYS TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BUSY TO COME TO THE PHONE) eating prime steaks, and expensive fancy kosher food prepared by his expert housekeeper DM, WHO HAS FAITHFULLY SERVED HIM DAY AND NIGHT, since July of 1974, for no monetary reimbursement whatsoever (while her dear mother is living in sorrow, waiting for the day when she will see her daughter once again).
Why can’t you eat exactly the same quality of food that he eats, and DO NO WORK WHATSOEVER WHILE YOU ARE BEING SERVED BY THREE BEAUTIFUL UNMARRIED WOMEN IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR APARTMENT while they gaze upon you with adoring eyes and kiss you’re your feet?????????? (And don’t tell me they don’t because you know that I used to do it).
You said that according to the constitution of the United States of America, ALL MEN WERE CREATED EQUAL! Obviously you are not equal to “Avraham”…On this one point I do agree that all you poor cult members are right.
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Have you seen his home? I don’t ever remember you going to Baltimore to stay? I do eat the same quality food he eats, lets see last night was a grilled ribeye, so tender and juicy…
And he gets gazed upon with adoring eyes? I get stares all the time and whistles too! Imagine that..
Oh and let me add. I’ve never kissed any man’s toes.. and I don’t even wanna know what you kiss now.
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Who is Steve? And who is Nancy? Clearly, you, Liberty, know who they are?
maybe you could close email me and fill me in? Now that I’m being falsely called a liar, I’m done posting. I’m not going I stoop to their level.
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I think I agree with you Micah. It’s starting to get a little out of hand.
Th.th.tha..that’s all folks….
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Again wheres your proof. Im not going to google something and spend tedious hours looking it up. Everything Ive read here in responce to my previous query has not been an answer. Wheres some quotes that specifically bring out the cult issue from their side? Everything youve said has been flimsy and incurcumstantial. Missing documents? From what I know about business you never have enough documentation especially when it comes to a tax issue. You say two to three words maybe a whole sentence stating your side then you go off on some wild tangent about the court system hates you look at all other religions and indians. But you still fail to present anything that exonerates you. Why dont you google it and bring it back here.
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First question for you mr logic. I see you ask a lot of questions based on an assumption that we actually agree with any of the prepositions about anything that has been said here. Provide proof that it was an illegal change from chapter 11 to a chapter 7. How was it illegal? Secondly where at any point did the judge or any of the jesuites in your whole article even raise an issue of religion. I have not seen nor heard them bring it up. The only time religion became an issue was when you slandered them by making flawed and heinous accusations againts their characters.
I think before anyone at any point on our side has to prove anything you should first. Bring documented proof. I am not religious. Could care less what god you believe in. I care about right and wrong and burden of proof. And this whole document requires piles or proof.
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Obviously sir you have not read the material given. Catholic allegations aside there are legal issues involved.
You are questioning how it was an illegal change…
“The case was assigned to an avowed Jesuit, Bankruptcy Judge Dennis O’Brien. Jesuit O’Brien refused to allow Debtor to have an evidentiary hearing. Debtor was not permitted to present any evidence in its defense. In fact, on the day of the conversion, Jesuit O’Brien in conspiracy with an IRS agent from St. Paul named Patricia Patton, and Colin Kreuziger of the U.S. Trustee’s Office, submitted a falsified affidavit claiming that SIST’s tax exempt status had been revoked. That made conversion from an 11 to a 7 possible. On the day of the hearing, Jesuit O’Brien robotically marched into the courtroom spewed forth “this case is hereby converted.” So, it was. The illegality of the conversion is incomprehensible.
You are also questioning how religion became a part of it….
“With respect to the reference to Nancy Dreher, the Catholic judge, that statement is
indeed true and accurate. In referring to Nancy Dreher as being a “Catholic judge”, it is not referring to being a member of the Roman Catholic Church. It is referring to a mentality and an adherence to a universal creed of White Supremacy.”
“The campaign to destroy the financial power of the company has included robbing its properties, vandalizing its properties, interfering with venders and lenders, taking away our business licenses, removing our membership with the local Chamber of Commerce, propagating slander and lies against the company and its personnel through her local media and ultimately national media, and physically harming and attempting to murder the company’s personnel. Nancy Dreher is no innocent gavel holder.”
When you have been on the receiving end of injustices for so many years it is not difficult to connect the dots here. I can understand that to outside individuals this material can appear very flammable. In truth it is the production of a people oppressed in a system that is supposed to have ended injustice long before it got this far. For years the Debtors parent company, SIST, has asked for help against the prejudices and discrimination that have occurred and no one in the legal system has paid any attention. What kind of reaction do you expect to get?
It is the same with all minority groups (American Indians, Mexicans, African Americans), the reactionary attitude comes from years of oppression. If the legal system cannot perform correctly what hope is there?
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For proof on the illegal conversion, it’s number 11 USC § 303. Look it up for yourself.
Actually, the judges themselves didn’t raise the issue in the public eye. They are nothing but puppets to their priests, as is David Hanners from Pioneer Press. None of them really think for themselves, and from their actions you can see that. Most of the press is now owned and controlled by Jesuit infiltration. Therefore, the priests ordered Hanners to bring it up in this case, just as they told Rick Rommel from Milwaukee Journal.(who is admittedly a Jesuit, just ask him!!)
Their news media brought up cult, cult, cult, cult, in order to take the public attention off the real facts. Naomi repeatedly tried to stick to the facts of the case, but in the news media the facts were never brought out. It was only ‘cult, cult, cult, cult, cult, cult’ and the only choice Naomi obviously had was to blast them back. Then they published news about Naomi’s ‘Catholic-bashing’ as if she was such a horrible person, but their news media had already been doing that to her since the inception of SIST over 10 years ago. I am not going to supply proof of the ‘cult-bashing’, just google it for yourself. O’Brien and Dreher have been able to get away with their actions simply because of Naomi’s background and the prior years of smear campaigns. Meanwhile they sit behind their benches, gavels in hand, and pretend they are not involved with the news media in any way behind the scenes.
Piles of proof? Why would I need proof! If Dreher says ‘yes, she is related to Shawano in such, such way’ then no proof needed. If she says no, then I will need proof and will get it one way or another. Does she have something she is hiding? Just ask her.
If O’Brien says ‘yes, he is related to Manty in such, such way, then what do I need proof for? I will feel he answered truthfully, and don’t need to prove anything. It’s just a simple question. All the questions I pose are just simple questions. Nothing to prove so long as they are answered truthfully. Let the answers and facts speak for themselves.
Speaking of necessity of proof, doesn’t Nauny Manty need proof that documents are missing in order to press the charge of ‘contempt of court?’ Based on this unproven charge, there is apparently an arrest warrant out for Naomi. Why doesn’t the court address the issue of proof with the trustee? Why is it only Naomi or us protesters that are required to prove anything here? Isn’t that a 180 from what is set forth in the laws of our country? Does presumption of innocence not mean anything? After all, Manty is the one charging Naomi, not the other way around. Then Dreher is just ruling on the side of Manty’s baseless charges. Based on the logic of Dreher, I can sit here and write up allegations against her all day long and don’t need to supply any evidence.
Get answers to the questions that we have. After all, federal judges don’t have skeletons in their closets, do they? O’Brien and Dreher are SURELY upright citizens of the land ruling in a case where they have no vested interest, religious, communal, familial, or otherwise. Why will they not answer these simple questions? Do they have something to hide?
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hmm, Is there a reason you are avoiding the topic of this page? Maybe you missed the questions the first time, and then again the second time. Here they are again. I know, I know, old age and senility are probably playing in somewhere, and the lunacy of the Christian bible sure doesn’t help any, but I’ll try this again.
Why did they illegally convert the Chapter 11 bankruptcy to a Chapter 7?
What documents does the Trustee Manty say are really missing?
Is Nancy Dreher related to the Shawano area in any way?
Is O’Brien related to Manty in any way, business or personal?
Since their (Naomi and Rebekah) religious background means something in this case, what is the religious and educational background of all of the parties posing as Judges and Trustees?
What is the religious/educational background of the people who purchased the properties for pennies on the dollar from the trustee when these properties were illegally liquidated?
Why did they have a secret hearing?
What prompted them to take such illegal and unethical steps?
Whose idea was it for them to have the secret hearing?
When did they meet together to plan it?
Was the planning done in-person or by phone?
Did Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty send the notice setting the hearing for 1:30 p.m.? (If she says no, that contradicts the record which shows it was set for 1:30 p.m.)
Why did Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty and Colin Kreuziger of the United States Trustee’s Office meet with Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy Dreher at 1:00 p.m.?
How come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy did not question where the Debtor was?
Why didn’t Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty tell Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy Dreher that she had sent the notice telling Debtor the hearing was set for 1:30 p.m.?
Knowing it was set for 1:30 p.m., how come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy went ahead to hold the hearing at 1:00 p.m.?
What was their discussion about the Debtor?
Did Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy not think what she was doing was illegal?
How come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy’s clerk just termed it “confusion”?
Since Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy knew there was some “confusion” then why did she go ahead and issue a default order?
Unproven allegations are just that…..unproven…aka FALSE! We are dealing with truths here, not Mithraic fairy tales. Spouting out New Testament quotes and false allegations still do not answer the questions that this blog is about, and what the protest is about.
This is a blog about what United Against Oppression is protesting. Unless you have comments or answers to these very legitimate questions, go troll somewhere else.
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I have a question for you folks. If Rama is so smart and led by God and all, and he went to all those business seminars, and he has all the free labor from his followers, and doesn’t even pay his taxes, how come he still had to declare bankruptcy? How could he have been such a terrible manager with all those things going for him? Proper business management would have saved you a lot of trouble. I don’t blame the judges one bit for what one of them called his “abuse of the legal system.” I think the judges were extremely tolerant of his delay tactics — more than I would have been.
All this whining about racial discrimination is nothing but a smoke screen. Calling anyone that does not agree with you a “Catholic” is purely juvenile behavior. Any normal person can see that the court documents you produce are so outrageous that people question YOUR sanity. If they cross you, you call them a dirty catholic or jesuit or filth spewer. You have your own mutual admiration society — you are socially and culturally inbred. Just about eveyone on the outside can see through you.
But I understand why you act the way you do. I was like that too for over two decades. I stood up for Rama and believed all the garbage he taught. But the Lord was gracious to me because I really wanted to know the truth and I wanted God, so He opened my eyes to the truth just as he did for Nancy. I desire that for you all. Step back and take a look at the whole Shawano scenario. Use your brains. Seek the Truth and seek the Lord. You say I have no ability to use logic. If that were true, I could not have been a logic designer and software engineer for IBM for forty years. It is you folks that cannot use logic.
But it is not a question of logic. It is a question of demonic control. That has to be broken before you can be set free. But the Lord Jesus came to open the prison doors. He came to set the captives free. He came to give the blind sight. Ask Him to help you. If there is anyone out there with a sincere desire for the truth — anyone who is fed up with all the Shawano nonsense — the Lord will help you break free. Call upon Him. “Whoever calls upon the name of the Lord will be delivered.” “You shall know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
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The brethren’s only defence: NAME CALLING.
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Kind of like getting called a ‘cult member’ right? Except for you dumbass is so much more accurate.. Feels good doesn’t it.
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You know, these men are just men and deviants, but Rama KNEW about it. Rama sent other daughters to stay with some of these men, even after knowing what they were capable of, Rama IS in fact responsible. He also physically, emotionally and financially abused people, regardless of what’s been in the news. Naomi and Rebekah both know about statute of limitations and how hard it is to condem people for that, much like the Catholic church’s abuses, it’s hard when there’s control, money and a lot of people (including family and friends) in the religion. So don’t, go saying “why is there no proof?” There’s proof, just talk to people and figure things out for yourself.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah….so much bitterness!
Crazy people will always say crazy things, no matter how illogical.
Karma is a bitch….it follows you everywhere. Kinda like Santa. “he sees you when you’re sleeping, he knows when you’re awake, he knows if you’ve been good or bad….”
Who are you trying to convince of these allegations? Other weak minded people or yourself?
Hurry…I need to be saved! Bible verse please?
On second thought; hey toilet paper guy, I live in the backwoods of Louisiana. I’m running low on shit wipe.
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I’m not a Christian, why are you assuming I am? Clearly I have a Jewish name. Crazy people will always say crazy things? You have no proof that I’m crazy, you don’t even know anything about me. It’s interesting how you can say “bitch” now days. I’m not trying to convince anyone of allegations, I’m trying to show you the truth. I once believed as you, but now, realize that he is lying and I was told for so many years utter bullshit so he could make money. Look at where he is now, he owns a company, not the beliefs he once stood for. He’s not giving any money to a school, he’s using it to buy property. What are you talking about at the end? You’re trying to say I’m full of shit, but call me toilet paper guy? Toilet paper cleans up shit, I’m just trying to help you get rid of the “shit” in your life. Too bad you think it’s me and other ex-members. Hopefully, one day, you will realize, before he screws up your life too much like he has so many others. Just because you haven’t been touched, doesn’t mean you won’t.
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Did I ever call you, “Yael”, a Christian? Nope! Perhaps you should catch up on the previous blogs before you post. I was referring to the PREVIOUS posts where “Steve” rants on and on about Bibical references. I have also stated in previous posts that I, Micah, am doing research for my thesis, which means I’m completing a master’s degree, and came upon this website. I must say, it’s been very enlightening.
I was raised to believe we were all created equal. I was raised to believe the United States was the land of freedoms. That is why my family emigrated here! I am an American citizen. I have never been a member of a cult and I am ANGERED by the fact that you and others who have posted here, assume that because I may remotely have empathy and kindness in my heart for anyone being trampled by the justice system and the powers that be, that I am also ‘one of them’. How the hell do you know??
Also, your reference to the word bitch. I have no idea what you are insinuating, but as an adult citizen, I have the right to use the word bitch! Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch.
“Toilet paper guy” was not in any way a reference to you. If you would go back and read the previous posts, you would be up to speed and not appear, shall I say, “in the dark’.
You and I have something in common though. WE ARE NOT CHRISTIAN! But I shall reiterate, I do not believe in ANY organized religion and actually disagree with most theories and translations of how man should behave or believe. Maybe I should start my own movement. Maybe I would be a REAL cult then.
So whoever you are, don’t get so teste (yes I know it’s actually spelled testy), peace out Homie!
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Rama’s teaching on lying was this: “Don’t lie to brother.” Period. It was never, “Don’t lie.” Hundreds of times I heard him say, “Don’t lie to brother.” Anyone else, especially “Christians”, were fair gaime. All the brethren are chronic liers, so I don’t believe you one minute, “Mikah”, when you say you have no relation to the cult.
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Sorry I don’t recall ever being taught to lie to anyone. Wonder who taught you how to?
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Hey Steve, thou sewage vomiter,
Stay on focus here:
Since you are spewing forth crap on a blog that relates to the Yehud Monosson case you were asked to get answers with evidence from your Christian brethren, since they won’t answer truthfully for anybody else. Maybe you can preach some ‘morals’ unto them and they shall spring forth with some documented answers:
Why did they illegally convert the Chapter 11 bankruptcy to a Chapter 7?
What documents does the Trustee Manty say are really missing?
Is Nancy Dreher related to the Shawano area in any way?
Is O’Brien related to Manty in any way, business or personal?
Since their (Naomi and Rebekah) religious background means something in this case, what is the religious and educational background of all of the parties posing as Judges and Trustees?
What is the religious/educational background of the people who purchased the properties for pennies on the dollar from the trustee when these properties were illegally liquidated?
Why did they have a secret hearing?
What prompted them to take such illegal and unethical steps?
Whose idea was it for them to have the secret hearing?
When did they meet together to plan it?
Was the planning done in-person or by phone?
Did Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty send the notice setting the hearing for 1:30 p.m.? (If she says no, that contradicts the record which shows it was set for 1:30 p.m.)
Why did Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty and Colin Kreuziger of the United States Trustee’s Office meet with Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy Dreher at 1:00 p.m.?
How come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy did not question where the Debtor was?
Why didn’t Chapter 7 Trustee Nauni Manty tell Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy Dreher that she had sent the notice telling Debtor the hearing was set for 1:30 p.m.?
Knowing it was set for 1:30 p.m., how come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy went ahead to hold the hearing at 1:00 p.m.?
What was their discussion about the Debtor?
Did Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy not think what she was doing was illegal?
How come Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy’s clerk just termed it “confusion”?
Since Minnesota Bankruptcy Judge Nancy knew there was some “confusion” then why did she go ahead and issue a default order?
This is a blog about what United Against Oppression is protesting. Unless you have comments or answers to these very legitimate questions, go troll somewhere else.
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Thank you. I was starting to wonder where the sanity was…
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This guy is doing the dirty work of the church, news media, and these dirty Judges. He is clouding the facts of the case with confusion and spouting off stuff that has NOTHING to do with the illegality of the actions and persecution of the court against Naomi in this case. That is the first ploy of the guilty (which he MUST be), and he is clearly not a benefit to our cause. He is only proving himself to be slightly crazed and obviously confused from too much Christian bible. I recommend doing the same as the news media does to us, and turn the microphone off when he speaks. Eye for an eye.
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You all must be terribly paranoid. “If they get their hands on Naomi, you know as well as I that they will kill her.” No intelligent person outside “the brethren” believes that. Scared for our lives in the 80’s? I never had one fear about that, and was not aware of any other of the brethren that did either. You are greatly exaggerating the peril you think you are in (temporially speaking, I mean).
Now if you were a Christian, you could take comfort in a Bible passage like this:
[Isa 41:10] Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
[Isa 41:11] Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish.
[Isa 41:12] Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought.
[Isa 41:13] For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.
Or this:
[Prov 28:1] The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.
And by the way, I never chased any Muslim man for any reason. Stop exagerating.
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Naomi refused to eat or drink, she was not deprived. Yes, some people have taunted you and made fun of you over the years, and that is not good. But most of us are not against your freedom to believe the way you want, think the way you do, dress the way you do, etc. We are SOLELY against Avraham Cohen’s extreme control over you and his abuse of all of you, and how he has destroyed so many families. We are against his sexual abuse of Nancy and others. We are against his using all of you for slave labor. We are against his failing to pay property taxes, and other legal debts that he owes. We are against his depriving all of you of financial means to take care of yourselves, both now and in the future. We are on YOUR SIDE, believe it or not.
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Christians always blame others for what THEY THEMSELVES are GUILTY of. How many families had problems with ‘sexual abuse’ ?? You had those problems already they didn’t manifest themselves because of Cohen. Sounds like some Christian fathers couldn’t keep their fucking dirty fingers to themselves. Is it so hard for you to believe that in Eastern society these problems are not an issue?! That men are actual men and not predators. What a relief it must be to live in such a society and culture where you don’t always have to wonder if the man is coming after you for your body and sex. And instead of blaming yourselves or your husbands you want to blame someone else to relieve yourselves of the guilt, how typical. Instead of admitting you yourselves have a problem you accuse someone else of instigating or provoking or creating or being the problem. I don’t feel deprived one bit. I have everything I need now and in the future. Funny none of you ever seem to be on the RIGHT side but always defending what you very well know to be a lie. Oh well, not my loss at all.
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You justify the sexual abuse of a young lady by a spiritual leader as ok because he came from the East? She believed he was the incarnation of God on earth, and he took advantage of that trust to exploit her, and you think it is ok? And you justifiy it because some other unspecified men are sexual abusers too? And you say that you can’t post Nancy’s comment because it was too sick, yet you condone the filthy, obscene, and blasphemous language of other contributors to this blog?
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How awful!! Even though I have read many cases of this same type of horror befallen other minority human classes, it befuddles me as to how this can take place in this so-called free society! This fear happens to gay people today. This fear continues to envelope those deemed different. This fear is unfair!! No one should partake in such injustice!!
Gun shots into your homes? Physical harm? To children!? Fearful of walking home from school? I suppose there were also eggs and tomatoes thrown and property damage as well? That seems to follow the theme of exacting fear upon another whom you dislike. Certainly does not sound like freedom of any kind, does it?
Although I do not know Mr. Cohen, I would like to meet him. Those close to him speak highly of him. He seems to be a continually loving elder amongst your community. Isn’t that the premise of “raising up a child”? A good parent would love and appreciate the love and affection of all who want the best for their child.
As for the allegations of sexual abuse by Mr. Cohen, I’m going to go out on a limb here and call that a lie! It’s so easy in the United States to holler “sex abuse” or any other type of abuse, when you don’t like someone. You don’t have to have physical proof. All you must do is tell your made up story over and over. It happens to men all across the nation. Women yell rape if a man has sex with her but doesn’t follow through with a relationship. It is the worst type of defamation and character shattering imaginable. It’s just the nature of the beast. I tend to not believe there is sexual abuse unless there is a confession or I was privy to the abuse with my own eyes.
It makes logical sense to me that these disgruntled folks would indeed holler about abuse and control. If they didn’t, they couldn’t live with themselves and the “loss” of years they feel they indured. Now, just because I say it makes sense that people would make these outrageous allegations, does not mean I, or other open-minded people, believe it.
In these last short 24 hours, I have used this Creator given brain of mine and have come to a conclusion on this subject. I laughed my ass off at the description of “Steve” chasing a Muslim man! Hahahahaha!!! Sounds so typical of missionary style folks. I saw almost the same thing happen in New Jersey! Muslims are GOING TO HELL! We must SAVE them! We must save them because they are terrorists!! Because all Muslims are terrorists correct? Just like Jews are going to hell! Hindu’s are going to hell! Any non-christian is going to hell! What a crock of crap! What a surprise is perhaps in store for these Christian fanatics when they die! Normal Muslim folks are against Muslim fanatics as well. Fanatics in any form is a danger to society.
To the blogger who knows so much about Naomi’s refusal vs withheld food, were you there with her so you saw? Have you spoken to Miss Isaacson and she told you she refused? Or are you like the majority of all Americans who blindly read and believe whatever is in the media?
Personally, I can see how she could have refused to eat the food! If she only eats Kosher, and the jail refused to provide her with Kosher food, well, that is not providing mutual respect for someone under your power. That is abuse of power. However, it’s perfectly logical to me that food was withheld. They were trying to break her, correct? Isn’t that what jail is for? To break someone and make them do certain things or act a certain way? Withholding food would be a perfect punishment for someone who isn’t conforming. I am certain Miss Isaacson does not conform easily.
Just for the record, everyone should believe how you wish. Pray however you believe is right, or don’t pray. Worship the sun for that matter, if that is what you believe is right for you. If having romantic relationships with a same sex partner is right for you, carry on! If you are sure, Christ is your Messiah, fine! But don’t presume the rest of your fellow human beings are wrong! There is only ONE judge and I’m positive it ain’t any of us mortals. Don’t let any fanatic tell you you are wrong!!
To the monerator of this blog, I applaud you and your efforts to promote liberty. I have found this website eye opening. I have read each article listed and am in the process of physically going to each website. My thesis will be great! I know my fellow colleagues have also been interested in these types of issues. Thank you for sticking up for me.
To “Steve”, thank you for your fanatic views. My eyes have been open wider and I assure you, my previous stance on organized religion (yes, Christianity is a religion!) has been further cemented. My mother would be proud of me!! I found most of what you wrote amusing. I’m sure you have an enormous audience of people who believe your prophesies and allegations, but I want you to know, you cannot fool everyone. There are lots of us out here in the big bad world who are accepting of all, regardless whether we agree with them or not. I emplore you to read your Bible. I ask you to practice what you preach. I beg of you to carefully listen to the teachings of Christ. I would like you to search yourself. I assure you, you have Christ’s words all misinterpreted and twisted. I have learned from reading your blogs here, that logic does not work with you. I shall make a leap here and assume anyone who is reading on this site is not interested in your bull-ony. I laugh at other bloggers responses to you as I assume they have given up on speaking logically with you as well?
It saddens me that a person or group of persons, have to go to such extremes to exert their rights. It should not be this way. We should be accepting of all! We should respect all choices. It’s just sad citizens are not safe in their own country.
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Steve
Spewing New Testament sewage or justifying your actions with quotes from the founding fathers on here isn’t going to change anyone’s mind. If they get their hands on Naomi, you know as well as I that they will kill her. How many times have they shot at SIST properties? These Christian bastards even set off a bomb on one of the properties!!! They deprived Naomi of food and water for DAYS!!! last time they got their hands on her. The week of Xmas 2007 when they put two bullets into ‘The Spirit of the Northwoods’ proves what their love and celebration of the Christian savior is all about.
Let’s go back to the 80’s. What did they do to us in the public schools? Do you remember or has your memory failed you in your old age? It was a life threatening situation daily just to be a little child walking home from school! Have you forgotten? What about the weekly window breaking and property destruction during the 80’s of our houses? What about the fact that the teachers/principals at the public schools just turned the other way and ignored what they did to us? To be considered a ‘Rama,’ ‘Moony,’ or ‘Cult’ meant walking in fear for your life. Do you forget you have children who dealt with that on a daily basis? Or are you trying to look away because possibly you were part of the problem as well? Your true Christian love and tolerance is showing through and proving who you really are now that you think torture of an innocent woman is alright simply because she doesn’t believe in your Christian Savior. As a child, I already figured out that if that was Christian love, I wanted no part of it. What a desecration to the human race in general.
One day while driving down Broadway in Rochester I saw a Muslim man running away from his mosque. I pulled over to see what he was running from, and it was YOU chasing him! And you probably think they are the terrorists!!! You were the one trying to chase him down with a shit-laden tract. Thankfully you have moved away from this area and will now leave our Muslim brothers to live their lives in some semblance of peace among their own kind.
Instead of attacking Naomi Isaacson, Rebekah Nett, or the moderator on here, why don’t you ask these questions to your Christian brethren?
1) Why did they illegally convert the Chapter 11 bankruptcy to a Chapter 7?
2) What documents does the Trustee Manty say are really missing?
3) Are they domcuments or items that can be solved with simple phone calls? If so, why doesn’t Manty just make the phone calls? Does she have a hidden agenda targetting Naomi’s life?
4) Ex Parte meetings between the Judge and Trustees are illegal. Why did they have these meetings?
5) Where, when, and how have they met in the past, and what did they talk about? Their cell phone records would prove everything one way or the other.
6) Is Nancy Dreher related to the Shawano area in any way?
7) Is O’Brien related to Manty in any way, business or personal?
8) Since their (Naomi and Rebekah) religious background means something in this case, what is the religious and educational background of all of the parties posing as Judges and Trustees?
9) What is the religious/educational background of the people who purchased the properties for pennies on the dollar from the trustee when these properties were illegally liquidated?
10) If they get their hands on Naomi, what will they do to her? You can see from the posted video what they did to a woman that clearly wasn’t Naomi. I have recieved a lot of lessons in peace, love, and tolerance from your kind. I feel sick to my stomach about what they will do to Naomi if they get their hands on her. May the Creator of the Heaven and Earth protect her from these vicious Christian brutes of love, peace, and tolerance.
That is just a start to the questions you should be asking your loving brothers and sisters in crime.
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Since it appears that we will never agree on this matter why don’t you eat your chicken and i’ll eat my beef and in the end we will see who is right or who was wrong…….
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Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of Wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible Swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
I have seen Him in the watchfires of a hundred circling Camps;
They have building Him an altar in the evening dews and Damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring Lamps;
Our God is marching on.
I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel;
“As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall Deal;
Let the hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,
Since God is marching on.”
He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call Retreat;
HE IS SIFTING OUT THE HEARTS OF MEN BEFORE HIS JUDGEMENT SEAT;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! by jubliant, My feet!
Our God is marching on.
Glory, glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, glory! Hallelujah!
Glory, glory! Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.
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Did you get this?
‘If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our
country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our
posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell
how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory
in profound obscurity.’ Daniel Webster
That is why America is in such a mess today.
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The Value of the Bible
‘That book accounts for the supremacy of England.’ Queen Victoria
‘That book, sir, is the rock on which our republic rests.’
Andrew Jackson
‘The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.’
Patrick Henry
‘It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the
Bible.’ George Washington
‘The Bible is no mere book, but a Living Creature, with a power that
conquers all that oppose it.’ Napoleon
‘The whole hope of human progress is suspended on the ever growing
influence of the Bible.’ W H Seward
‘In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to
give me light and strength.’ Robert E Lee
‘I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man.
All the good from the Saviour of the world is communicated to us
through this book.’ Abraham Lincoln
‘It is impossible to enslave mentally or socially a Bible-reading
people. The principles of the Bible are the ground-work of human
freedom.’ Horace Greeley
‘All human discoveries seem to be made only for the purpose of
confirming more and more strongly the truths contained in the
Sacred Scriptures.’ Sir William Herschel
‘There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history.’ Sir Isaac Newton
‘I have known ninty-five of the world’s great men in my time, and
of these eighty-seven were followers of the Bible. The Bible is
stamped with a Specialty of Origin, and an immeasurable distance
separates it from all competitors.’ W E Gladstone
‘If there is anything in my thoughts or style to commend, the credit
is due to my parents for instilling in me an early love of the
Scriptures. If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our
country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our
posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell
how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory
in profound obscurity.’ Daniel Webster
‘So great is my veneration for the Bible that the earlier my children
begin to read it the more confident will be my hope that they will
prove useful citizens of their country and respectable members of
society. I have for may years made it a practice to read through the
Bible once every year.’ John Quincy Adams
‘The existence of the Bible, as a book for the people, is the greatest
benefit which the human race has ever experienced. Every attempt to
belittle it is a crime against humanity.’ Immanuel Kant
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There is nothing to ‘judge’ the courts about, what they have done and are doing is illegal in a purely democratic sense and that’s still true even with their Catholic agenda added. Anybody who can view the case from a just and legal standpoint could tell you that.
I don’t consider anyone my ‘enemy’. I have an opinion and you have an opinion but when you try to force your opinion down my throat, naturally I will become defensive of what is my personal right to do with my life as I see fit. It is not harmful to me or to you, so why do you make it YOUR concern?
Seems you have given up your bible quotations, which is just as well because they make no difference to me and you waste your breath. But if you assume that you are in the same league as a person like Abraham Lincoln, you are deluding yourself much more than I imagined.
“Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!” – Patrick Henry
It is a right in America, or so I was raised to believe, that I have Freedom of Religion, but as you demonstrate that apparently is not the case.
As in the days of the Inquisition a person was found guilty, declared a heretic and then the ultimate punishment was meted out, DEATH…. Nowadays it seems to work under the cover of law in a similar pattern. First you are illegally found guilty, then you are charged, then they file a warrant for arrest, then you are locked up or killed.. Interesting how the OLD becomes the NEW, get my drift.
Let’s quote a few more people, since that seems to be this mornings standard…
”It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country” the United States of America “are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuits Priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty.”
-General Lafayette, 1799 Aide to General Washington Romanism: A Menace to the Nation
“”A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.” -Winston Churchill
“”Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.” – Thomas Jefferson”
“”Lighthouses are more useful than churches.” – Benjamin Franklin”
When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said “Let us pray.” We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible and they had the land.
Seems to me that Christianity has not done the world any good whatsoever. It is a religion of death and destruction not LIFE as you profess.
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Yes, I agree that what Nancy posted is SICK, and the sad thing is, it is all TRUE! If you value liberty as you say you do, you should rejoice that she got FREE! I hope you all do some day. What a paradox — you talk about liberty and you are all slaves. And you never did tell me how you can tell me it is wrong to be judging, but it is ok for you all to be judging the reporter and the judge and everyone else that you consider your enemies.
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Food for thought for those who are intelligent, educated and wise.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon
I believe in God, only I spell it Nature. — Frank Lloyd Wright
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I can respect that, good answer 🙂
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Hey Kal, remember back in the 60’s when I found you standing on a street corner on the ISU campus asking people if they were going to Hell when they died? What happened?
And was Nancy’s post too much light for you? She explained why:
Steve did not marry another man’s wife,
She did not leave her children, and
Steve did not help her to leave.
And you did not have the courage to post it.
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So I have to be Kal to post on a website? It is amazing that you are a grown man and dare I say learned?, or supposed to be and you have such a narrow minded view of the world that you believe only so-called ‘members’ have the brain capacity to believe that Christianity is a fucked up deceitful religion, compiled of pagan traditions and conceived within the incestuous loins of homosexual Roman-ism. There are millions of people in this world who have seen through the fog of Christianity, it isn’t some NEW idea like your NEW TESTAMENT….
And was Nancy’s post too light for me? No it was so fucking sick that I will not let it grace these pages because I would not want viewers to get sick. The fact that you both have such crooked minds is beyond comprehension. If you were exemplary Christians your actions and lifestyle and everything you do would shine and be an example for people to follow, you would not have to chase people and shove it down their throats. Your ‘religion’ speaks for itself and I will die before letting myself or my children ever become a part of it.
As for Micah, no he is not someone I know and all I can say is thank the birds that he has a brain and is very well spoken and has not fallen into your sticky Christian trap of fake salvation and hell.
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Yes, I know all about Corporate Avenger and their blasphemous songs. The cult used them in their recent video. And you say you are not connected with those people?
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Steve
They are only as mythical as your current myth.
Do you think godsicles (gods on a stick) make good toilet paper holders?
If so, I’m gonna produce some of them too. They’ll go well with my new testament toilet paper rolls.
As for bowing down to somebody, isn’t that what little boys from your religious classes do in front of their priest while he opens his zipper?
After all, baby raping and child molesting is ok so long as you accept your precious savior into your heart. All your sins are forgiven, right?
Praise he who is high, and have a nice life….wait a minute, you don’t get high, that’s a sin….but aren’t those all forgiven? Damn….I’m so confused. I’d better keep life simple and go back to testing my Christian Bible toilet papers and designing godsicle toilet paper rolls.
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Oh my gawd!!! Look what I came across!! I wanna meet this mother fucker! Just thought some of y’all other bloggers may smile.
Not you Steve….by all means, keep moaning and groaning and reciting.
Of all the inspirations for the acts of violence from one man onto another
From one nation onto another, from one oppressor onto the oppressed
There is no more guilty party and inspiration than those books known
As the Holy Bible, the Koran, and the Bagavad Gita to spread separation of mankind
The Bible is bullshit, the Koran is a lie
The Bagavad Gita did not fall from the sky
These are the books that were written by men
They’ve caused wars, now follow if you can
They took away our love and gave us fear
Tried to make us hate the one who put us here
Then they took our sacred songs and made them wrong
Then they took away our prayers and gave us theirs
The Bible is bullshit, the Koran is a lie
The Bagavad Gita did not fall from the sky
These are the books that are written by men
They’ve caused wars, now follow if you can
First they created sin so they could win
Then they built the cages they could put us in
Then they took away our tribes and gave us jail
Then they took away the Earth and gave us hell
The Bible is bullshit, the Koran is a lie
The Bagavad Gita did not fall from the sky
These are the books that are written by men
They’ve caused wars, now follow if you can
It’s time for you to love one another
It’s time for you to recognize your brother
It’s time for us to stop killing our mother
It’s time for us to care for each other
The Bible is bullshit
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Assuming that someone out there might have a sincere interest in knowing if the Lord Jesus is God, I will give you an answer. It is not recorded that the Lord ever said the exact words, “I am God.” He did say things that made it clear that he was God, and considered Himself so, however.
When the men came to arrest the Lord before His crucifixion, they said they were looking for Jesus of Nazareth. He answered, “I AM.” (That was one of the Old Testament names of God. An English Bible will say, “I am he,” but in the Greek it is just “I am.”) When Jesus said, “I AM,” so much divine power was released that all of the soldiers fell backwards to the ground. (John 18:6)
Here is another passage where Jesus implied He was God. When Jesus said that He was “one with the Father,” the Jews knew He claimed to be God and took up stones to kill Him. They even said that He was making Himself God by His statement.
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
John 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
John 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Finally, here is an exchange between Pilate and the Lord showing He considered HImself to be King of the Jews. (The last sentence is a test to see if you are “of the truth.”)
[John 18:37] Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
And BTW, I did not abandon my family; they abandoned me. In 1993 they moved out of our house in MN; in 1999 they locked me out of my WI house; I have tried many times to connect with them, and have been continually rejected.
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Ok, I apologize for telling Micah if he doesn’t believe Bill Wiese’s testimony of hell to die to learn more about it. I agree it wasn’t very nice. But I don’t think a lot of the things the rest of you are saying are very nice either. But that’s no excuse, so I apologize.
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Steve, where in your bible does this person who you call god say “I am god.”
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Steve, what a nice Christian thing to tell someone, just die and try it!! You dirty bastard! So who is shoving shit in your mouth to say that? You say Isaacson and Nett were given words? Who filled your mind with so much crap? Why do you make yourself believe a lie so well that you can’t see the truth even if it kicks you in the ass! WHY DON’T YOU FUCKING BAIL OUT and see where you end up! Then come back and let us know why don’t you….
And speaking of Gandhi, your the piece of shit who went and married someone else’s wife and helped her leave her family, meanwhile you good Christian piece of shit left your family…. So who is your reliable source for your information regarding Gandhi… HIS FAMILY? HIS VILLAGE? HIS WIFE? HIS RELATIONS? No, I didn’t think so. Christian s are always miserable. The entire country of INDIA looked up to Gandhi as a GREAT MAN, the FATHER of India… If he did those acts he would have been killed, not exulted.
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Micah, You nicely dodged my question about why you don’t rail on the cult that Isaacson is in about judging, with all your ranting. If you want to learn more about hell, read “23 Minutes in Hell,” or “Hell” by Bill Wiese, (http://spiritlessons.com/Documents/BillWiese_23MinutesinHell_Text.htm), or if you don’t believe them, just die.
Toilet paper guy: the names you listed were mythiclal characters, but Jesus Christ is real and some day you will bow before Him and confess that He is Lord of all. In a sense religion is a farce, but Christianity is not a religion. There are many counterfiets of Christianity which confuse people like you.
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Dearest Steve:
I never dodged any question. You are entirely missing my point. My point being….this cult as you call them, or this leader, or these women named Naomi and Rebekah, have done nor said ANYTHING to me that compells me to attack them. From what I have read and researched it seems to me they are in fact the attacked and the hunted. You put yourself out there with your brimstone and fire prophesies and your endless droning of bible verses.
It is because I am interested in the plights of those oppressed, abondoned, and defeated that I decided to do my thesis on this subject. Thank you for giving me more to add to the anti-religion part of my paper.
As I have stated, I am well versed in many holy books, traditions, ideas, theories, and I find it’s better to walk this earth with a humble admiration for all things spiritual rather than clubbing people who do not believe as I, with whatever bible verse comes in handy for my dirty work.
I have no doubt you have thought of your afterlife? I am quite positive you are certain, as are most Christians, you are spending eternity with your Christ. Correct?
Let me remind you of a scripture taken directly from your Holy Book.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
In summary, I have met with and learned from many folks across this nation who have been subjected to unspeakable crimes and unjust and cruel exercise of authority or power. It runs rampant in every facet of life, interwoven with the blasphemy spat out from the pages of the Bible.
You are so quick to tell people they are going to hell. Where is hell exactly? Would that be living in your home? Is that why your family rebuffs your attempts at reconciliation?
You are so quick to assume that anyone who takes the side of or even remotely believes the case put forth by Miss Isaacson must be a cult member as well. Correct?
Who are you to call anyone a cult? Would you be the first I throw fire bombs in their homes under the pretense they are terrorists or a danger to this nation? What a loving Christian comfort!
Be careful what you say. One day you will be held accountable for those words. That’s from your holy book as well. 😉 in the meantime I’m going to go find Gandhi’s relatives. I need some good ole fashion loving!!
Peace be onto you all!
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Steve
Yours is not the only god that supposedly rose from the dead. Here is a list of previous false risen gods that yours was concepted from:
Osiris
Baal
Melqart
Adonis
Eshmun
Dumuzi
Asclepius
Achilles
Thetis
Memnon
Alcmene
Castor
Heracles
Melicertes
Bodhidharma
Mithra
And many others. Yours is the same thing.
Religion is a farce made by the conquerers to control the slaves.
Convert or die is their motto. I’m starting a toilet paper printing business. It is going to have the entire new testament on each roll in large print.
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I’m not judging anyone — it is the Word of God that judges anyone who does not accept the Lord Jesus Christ as his lord and savior. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. That the Bible is true is proven by the fact the decesed founders of all other religions are still in their graves, but the Lord Jesus rose victoriously over death and all the powers of darkness.
But speaking of judging, I was judged week after week for 26 years by the person putting the words in Naomi’s and Rebekah’s mouths about the Catholic Church. They are judging the Christians and he repeatedly judged me, so why don’t you direct your Judging attack on him and his puppets (of whom I would guess you are one).
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I am the puppet of no one!! My beliefs and faith are my own! I do have a brain that I use all by myself! I’m not tied to any friggin religion or the belief that I must ‘control’ folks with bible quotations. I don’t have a clue as to who this ‘leader’ is of whom you speak! I simply came across this website while googling information for my thesis.
Again, who the hell are you? How do you know about where we all are going after death? Oh yea…that bible. All you do is spew bible verses out. That’s all ya got!? You sound like a very bitter old man! Let me guess, you lost 26 years of your life to some controling force and now that you cannot reconcile that with whatever theology you believe, it only makes sense to now place blame and criticism on anyone else. If your life was so horrible, move the f••k on! Every time you type or open your mouth, you prove to the world exactly what I’m saying. Keep it up! It’s dudes like you that spray abortion clinics with bullets because god told em to. Folks like you are no different than the terrorists who flew planes into the WTC! Fanatics cause wars. Wars are caused by peeps who have this deep seeded desire to be right! I get it! You religion is right! You god is right! Your bible speaks for all mankind. Good for you!! Now shut up! Open minded people don’t care! At least I know, wherever I go after I die, you won’t be there with ur bible.
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I find it hilarious that you (Steve) know so much about where anyone goes after they die! Have you died and been there so you know first hand? Or are you just another among the millions of Conservative Christians who spew out bible verses to people to to to convince them to believe like you? Who are you to judge the way I live my life? Who are you to tell ‘me’ that I’m going to go to hell? You are a simple mortal just as I. You are nothing more or less than I. Just because you sibscribe to a particular theory of what you believe is ‘right’, ‘wrong’, or ‘just’ doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things.
I consider myself pretty well versed in multiple theories and have read many Holy Books and studied with different folks of all walks of life. Never have I met a conservative Christian who walked this earth without judgement of their neighbor. This is what has steered me AWAY from your bible and it’s theories.
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you”. Amen!
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2 Pet 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
2 Pet 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2 Pet 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2 Pet 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
— Mahatma Gandhi
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Thanks for your reply. I found this from a search about Ghandi: “He also beat his wife, slept with teenage girls. … I am not a ‘Gandhi scholar’ but I have studied his life and writings for many years. … He did everything he could to stop Partition, and to bring Mohammed Ali Jinnah to his side.” I don’t think I like that behavior either.
But to address the real issue, the fallacy with your leader’s criticism of Christianity is that he equates Western culture with Christianity. He told me to “despise Christianity.” But does he even know what Christianity is? He made fun of Paul and repudiated his writings, except for his favorite quote: “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” Paul’s gospel is the real essence of Christianity, summed up in Galations 2:19-21: “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”
It is true that even people who are born-again, washed-in-the- blood Christians are often not walking worthy of the Lord, which is sad. Most churches are dead and worthless, it’s true. There is very little of real Christianity practiced in the world. Separate in your mind Christianity from the churches. To throw out real New Testament Christianity is to throw the baby out with the bath water.
The plain fact is that anyone is not a real born-again Christian will spend eternity in Hell. If you accept Judaism and repudiate Christianity, you will go to Hell. If you become an Orthodox Jew and renouce Jesus Christ, you will go to Hell. Hindus go to Hell. Gandhi probably went to Hell. Paul said that anyone who preaches a different gospel from what he preached is accursed — damned — will GO TO HELL! The Jews will go to Hell if they do not accept Jesus as their Messiah and become regenerated. You can never be saved by keeping either the laws in the Bible or man-made rules or serving a man who you think is sent from Heaven. It’s hopeless.
But thank you for not deleting my quote from Peter. In it he warned that it is possible to have had a knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and then fall away from Him and be miserably lost. I hope that will not be true of any of you. Shalom.
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